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		<title>By: Ted Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.verhine.com/etc/billperkins/comment-page-1#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An open letter to the group:

I can&#039;t begin to express my feelings at the turn of events over the previous 24 hours. It&#039;s come as quite a shock to say the least.

Let&#039;s start at the top shall we?
I make no apologies or excuses for my quality of web design. I&#039;m learning a new technology and medium. Do I claim to know it all? Nope. Is this my first foray into learning and experimenting with flash? Yup. Does it show? Evidently, judging from the harsh criticisms I&#039;m getting from my peers in this group. But is this really about the quality of my work? No. This is about integrity, and the actions of my former partner. You can be the best designer in the world, but at the end of they day you have to know how to treat your clients with respect, and even your peers - even if you disagree with them. I admit it. I designed these sites you are ripping apart . Yup. All mine.

Do I think the perkinsbell site and demo could be improved -and revamped - or the navigation system on anthony liggins.com could be improved. Of course, and actually they *were* in the process of undergoing a major overhaul until all this hit the fan. Too much gitch and glam. Too lean on functionality and usability. What can I say, after doing a bizillion sites of &quot;CLICK HERE&quot; you ache to push the envelope and do something different - right or wrong. I do appreciate the constructive criticism however. This is really more about forging good client/designer relationships, and your standing in the community at large. This is tough business, and your reputation as a business person is equally - if not more important - than your skills as an artist. That&#039;s why I&#039;m here to say I&#039;m sorry my firm was involved and implicated in this fiasco. For what it&#039;s worth, Bill and I have parted company as a result of this and I&#039;ll be doing business under my old site. In time, I may earn your respect as a designer ... but in the meantime, I hope you can at least earn my respect first as a person. So let&#039;s set the record straight. I was the designer at perkinsbell, not Bill. If you have any *helpful* critiqes that will impove my skills, or recommend any resources that would better my understanding - please share them. Otherwise, ripping me a new one isn&#039;t really going to help. Please don&#039;t email me about Bill and this whole situation - it&#039;s difficult enough as it is trying to get my bearings now that my dream of building a busness doing what I love has been obliterated overnight.

The best thing any of you can do, is let this situation cool down so I can do damage control with my clients. I fear, Bill&#039;s path will eventually lead him to a place none of us really want to follow, and the best thing you could do is encourage him to get help as I have done.

Peace to you, and thanks for your time.
Ted Bell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An open letter to the group:</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t begin to express my feelings at the turn of events over the previous 24 hours. It&#8217;s come as quite a shock to say the least.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start at the top shall we?<br />
I make no apologies or excuses for my quality of web design. I&#8217;m learning a new technology and medium. Do I claim to know it all? Nope. Is this my first foray into learning and experimenting with flash? Yup. Does it show? Evidently, judging from the harsh criticisms I&#8217;m getting from my peers in this group. But is this really about the quality of my work? No. This is about integrity, and the actions of my former partner. You can be the best designer in the world, but at the end of they day you have to know how to treat your clients with respect, and even your peers &#8211; even if you disagree with them. I admit it. I designed these sites you are ripping apart . Yup. All mine.</p>
<p>Do I think the perkinsbell site and demo could be improved -and revamped &#8211; or the navigation system on anthony liggins.com could be improved. Of course, and actually they *were* in the process of undergoing a major overhaul until all this hit the fan. Too much gitch and glam. Too lean on functionality and usability. What can I say, after doing a bizillion sites of &#8220;CLICK HERE&#8221; you ache to push the envelope and do something different &#8211; right or wrong. I do appreciate the constructive criticism however. This is really more about forging good client/designer relationships, and your standing in the community at large. This is tough business, and your reputation as a business person is equally &#8211; if not more important &#8211; than your skills as an artist. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m here to say I&#8217;m sorry my firm was involved and implicated in this fiasco. For what it&#8217;s worth, Bill and I have parted company as a result of this and I&#8217;ll be doing business under my old site. In time, I may earn your respect as a designer &#8230; but in the meantime, I hope you can at least earn my respect first as a person. So let&#8217;s set the record straight. I was the designer at perkinsbell, not Bill. If you have any *helpful* critiqes that will impove my skills, or recommend any resources that would better my understanding &#8211; please share them. Otherwise, ripping me a new one isn&#8217;t really going to help. Please don&#8217;t email me about Bill and this whole situation &#8211; it&#8217;s difficult enough as it is trying to get my bearings now that my dream of building a busness doing what I love has been obliterated overnight.</p>
<p>The best thing any of you can do, is let this situation cool down so I can do damage control with my clients. I fear, Bill&#8217;s path will eventually lead him to a place none of us really want to follow, and the best thing you could do is encourage him to get help as I have done.</p>
<p>Peace to you, and thanks for your time.<br />
Ted Bell</p>
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		<title>By: cap'n crunch</title>
		<link>http://www.verhine.com/etc/billperkins/comment-page-1#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>cap'n crunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno. The guy sounds like he&#039;s drunk or high or something. I&#039;m not kidding or trying to insult him, just stating a my opinion. I can&#039;t make a logical connection between the shitty flash, the inane threats and the man described on his corporate site. He was the Executive Vice President of BBDO? I don&#039;t know what to think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno. The guy sounds like he&#8217;s drunk or high or something. I&#8217;m not kidding or trying to insult him, just stating a my opinion. I can&#8217;t make a logical connection between the shitty flash, the inane threats and the man described on his corporate site. He was the Executive Vice President of BBDO? I don&#8217;t know what to think.</p>
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		<title>By: kraltran</title>
		<link>http://www.verhine.com/etc/billperkins/comment-page-1#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>kraltran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man that webpage IS excruciating, (nobody wants to wait for animations, thats why we have broadband)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man that webpage IS excruciating, (nobody wants to wait for animations, thats why we have broadband)</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://www.verhine.com/etc/billperkins/comment-page-1#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude that site fucking sucks huge monkey balls. Sry there Billy but J is right.  That isn&#039;t the worst site ever.. but it&#039;s pretty darn close.  Hello flash 5. Just another quick comment. Tell Wild Bill to take miles Davis quotes of his site... if you are going to be a fucking racist pig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude that site fucking sucks huge monkey balls. Sry there Billy but J is right.  That isn&#8217;t the worst site ever.. but it&#8217;s pretty darn close.  Hello flash 5. Just another quick comment. Tell Wild Bill to take miles Davis quotes of his site&#8230; if you are going to be a fucking racist pig.</p>
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		<title>By: xwithhonorx</title>
		<link>http://www.verhine.com/etc/billperkins/comment-page-1#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>xwithhonorx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow dude.</description>
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		<title>By: okaysamurai</title>
		<link>http://www.verhine.com/etc/billperkins/comment-page-1#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>okaysamurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap man.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.verhine.com/etc/billperkins/comment-page-1#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhahahahahaha that guys website really does smoke balls!

AND his corporate website is even worse aha haha ha  rad dude, people who comit travesties of design need a good slating from time to time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhahahahahaha that guys website really does smoke balls!</p>
<p>AND his corporate website is even worse aha haha ha  rad dude, people who comit travesties of design need a good slating from time to time!</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://www.verhine.com/etc/billperkins/comment-page-1#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is hilarious.
That guy is suck a god damn baby.
We should all email him asking if there is something wrong with his site as it is hard to navagate &amp; rather pointless decoration. Surely he can&#039;t take on all us niggas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is hilarious.<br />
That guy is suck a god damn baby.<br />
We should all email him asking if there is something wrong with his site as it is hard to navagate &amp; rather pointless decoration. Surely he can&#8217;t take on all us niggas.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://www.verhine.com/etc/billperkins/comment-page-1#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First. Sorry that this guy is a nut-job and is harrassing you. Second, his design skills are TERRIBLE. I&#039;m a professional art director who works for a major design firm and his work is very amateur. It&#039;s too bad that in addition to being a horrible designer, he&#039;s crazy as well. Thanks for the laugh. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First. Sorry that this guy is a nut-job and is harrassing you. Second, his design skills are TERRIBLE. I&#8217;m a professional art director who works for a major design firm and his work is very amateur. It&#8217;s too bad that in addition to being a horrible designer, he&#8217;s crazy as well. Thanks for the laugh. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I cant imagine how his critiques went in art school if he did in-fact ever get any training in web design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I cant imagine how his critiques went in art school if he did in-fact ever get any training in web design.</p>
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